A podcast by Chris Magistrado

The people building
the future of cybersecurity.

Long-form conversations with hackers, founders, and investors shaping the security industry. Hosted by Chris Magistrado — security researcher, Senior Product Security Engineer at Fortinet, and recovering hacker.

Past guests include
Jeremiah Grossman / Root Evidence Adam Shostack / CVE co-creator Jack Rhysider / Darknet Diaries Vivek Ramachandran / SquareX (acq. Zscaler) Jordan Wiens / Vector 35 Maxie Reynolds / Subsea Cloud Greg Martin / Ghost Security Alan Braithwaite / RunReveal

About the show

Hackers to Founders is a long-form interview podcast about the people building the future of cybersecurity. Each episode goes deep on one founder, hacker, or investor — what they built, what they broke, and what it actually took.

About the host

Chris Magistrado is a security researcher and Senior Product Security Engineer at Fortinet, with about a decade in offensive and defensive security. He's worked on PSIRT, CVE coordination, and product security for some of the largest networks in the world.

Based in Austin, Texas. Find him on LinkedIn or X as @REal0day.

Work with Chris

Outside of Fortinet, Chris runs Red Security Global, a small product security and privacy compliance firm. Services include:

  • Product security audits and code review
  • SOC 2, HIPAA, CCPA & GDPR readiness assessments
  • Privacy policy and DSAR program drafting

Engagements run 2–4 weeks and start at $1,500. Founder-friendly pricing for early-stage startups.

Reach out: chris@rsecglobal.com

All Episodes

Every conversation, from episode zero.

February 21st, 2025

Ep.17 – How AI is Changing OSINT, Dark Web Investigations, and Fraud Detection with Zara Perumal

What if AI could predict and prevent cyber fraud before it happens? In this episode of Hackers to Founders, Zara Perumal, CTO and co-founder of Overwatch Data, highlights her journey from early coding experiments to building an AI-driven cybersecurity platform. Hear how Overwatch uncovers threats on the dark web, automates OSINT processing, and helps businesses stay ahead of emerging fraud schemes.

Key Highlights in This Episode:

  • Zara's early passion for coding, developing iOS apps, and studying at MIT.
  • From Google's Threat Analysis Group to co-founding Overwatch Data.
  • Using AI and automation to sift through OSINT and dark web intel.
  • Turning customer feedback into real-time fraud detection solutions.
  • Insights on navigating the startup world, from market fit to funding rounds.

People Mentioned:

  • Zara Perumal – CTO and Co-founder, Overwatch Data
  • Arjun Bisen – CEO and Co-founder, Overwatch Data
  • Ron Rivest – MIT professor and cryptography pioneer
  • Michael (YC Advisor) – Early guide during Overwatch's development

Technologies & Tools:

  • GPT (ChatGPT) – AI scripting and analysis tasks
  • JADX – Reverse-engineering Android applications
  • Corellium – Mobile security research platform
  • Telegram – Key source for cybercriminal communication

Cybersecurity & Hacking:

  • OSINT – Open-source intelligence for threat detection
  • Dark Web Investigations – Tracking illicit marketplaces and forums
  • SIM Swapping & Credential Stuffing – Key fraud tactics Overwatch counters